We are learning more about the hundreds of jobs that were recently cut at Cleveland's Whirlpool plant.
Many of them are going to a Whirlpool plant in Mexico, while others are going to a plant in Oklahoma, for now at least.
Whirlpool officials in Cleveland declined to comment and refered us to their corporate headquarters, which also told us they will not say anything about the job cuts. But employees who were recently cut have plenty to say.
Outside the Whirlpool campus that's still dotted with old Maytag signs it appears life goes on, but without hundreds of employees like Timothy Martin, who's worked at the Cleveland plant for seven years.
"Shock, disbelief, because we weren't given any warning," Martin said.
In this Whirlpool memo, the company says "due to the transfer of freestanding ranges to Whirlpool facilities in Tulsa, Oklahoma and Celaya Mexico..." jobs are "regrettably" being cut.
This is the latest round of local manufacturing jobs moved to Mexico, where labor is cheaper.
Omelia Westfield is among those laid-off who said "I think that the companies that are sending jobs out of this country, I think they need to realize that it's the American people, the American workers, that's actually got these facilities up and running."
We asked Martin if company officials said anything about Mexico initially and Martin said "no."
According to the Whirlpool internal memo 350 employees are loosing their jobs. The memo goes on to say it is the hope that the company can bring those jobs back to Cleveland.
But the chances of jobs coming back after being sent to Mexico don't seem all that great to Martin.
"That's what they claim, but we don't see it. They shut down too many lines," Martin said.
For now, laid-off Whirlpool employees are filling out forms for "Alternative Trade Adjustment Assistance," a government program that helps workers who's jobs go overseas get training for other jobs.
But that doesn't help workers with more immediate needs.
"It took food off a lot of tables, 350 people, you know that's a lot of people unemployed right now," Westfield said.
Westfield said job training offers hope, but the problem many laid off people in Cleveland are finding is that there just not enough jobs available that provide a livable wage.